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I was out at Reddit today, and I saw a post that said,
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I work 2 jobs and wanna start podcasting. I'll
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share my thoughts.
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Jackson. So the post says, hi, all. I am in
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crushing debt right now due to special circumstances.
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I'm working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week just to scrape
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by. I have a great podcast idea and wanna
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start recording. I have a computer and a decent mic.
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What software would you recommend and why? I don't have a lot of
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time for editing, and obviously my funds are nearly non
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existent. Thank you for your time. And so I want to
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preface this answer with there's a difference between
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being poor and being broke. I
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know the taste of government cheese. When I was growing
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up, for a period of time, my family was on welfare.
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And in my twenties, I had to file for bankruptcy. And I
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remember standing I had a job, but I
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was standing in front of the vending machine going, do I want a Mountain
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Dew, or do I use this money to get
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some gas so my car will make it home? It
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sucks to be broke, and there is a difference. And
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so I say this with
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love, respect, and compassion.
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If you have crushing debt, you need to make money
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right now, and a podcast is not to
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weigh
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and a podcast is absolutely not the way
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to make money quickly. What you
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need is not a podcast. What you need is a job.
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Deliver some pizzas, whatever it is. I sound like Dave Ramsey. Deliver some
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pizzas, you know, do whatever you gotta do, sell some
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stuff. But the the problem with this
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and I wrote a book on podcast monetization called
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Profit From Your Podcast. It's available as a
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book. You can get it on Amazon, or you can get the audiobook
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at profit from your podcast. I'll have a link out in the show notes for
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this. But and nobody likes this answer.
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It takes about 3 years,
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maybe 2, but more than likely 3
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to build enough audience, not even to where you can quit
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your job, but to where you can make enough money that you're like, okay.
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This is more than a happy meal. And the reason for that is you're just
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starting out. And if you're brand new to
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creating content, the 1st year, you're kinda finding
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your voice. And then you're also
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and, again, I'm not saying you're awful, but you're getting
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good. The first time you try to play basketball or tie your shoes
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or drive a car or anything, you aren't very good at it. And it takes
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you a while to to get your confidence up, to really figure
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out what your audience needs. These are the kind of things I help people kinda
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do on a on an expedited situation.
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But even working with a coach, it's gonna take years
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to get enough audience. And then there are things like newsletters. I mean, it
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goes on and on and on. And that's why I say
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it if you want to make money quickly,
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podcasting is not the way, especially if you have no
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audience. Because the 1st year, you're just getting
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going. The 2nd year, now you're actually pretty good. And if
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you're staying consultant, both in schedule, but more
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importantly, in making amazing consultant.
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And that amazing content takes time. But if you
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do that for and during that second year, now your your
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listeners are starting to say, wow. You need to check out this show. It's really
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good. And so it starts to grow organically
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so that by the 3rd year, you've got enough people that if
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you want to sell your own product or service, that's the number one way
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to make money. If you have affiliates, if you have a
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newsletter, if you have some sort of crowdfunding, if you have
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donations, there are all sorts of different ways to make money. But the
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problem is you can't do it quickly when you start
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up. When I first started the school of podcasting, I had gone back to
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school, and I was getting a teaching degree. I had been
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teaching in the corporate world for years, but I actually didn't have
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a degree in education. My original degree was in
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electronic engineering. And even though my resume showed all
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this this training and education I had done, I needed the piece of
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paper. And so when I got my first degree, I was in my
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twenties, and I worked as a waiter. When I got my second degree
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in education, I was in my forties, and I thought, well, I'll start
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a podcast because it's gonna be hot. This is back in 2,005
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And especially in 2005, nobody knew what a
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podcast was. And so consultant, I wasn't
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making much money as a podcast coach. So I was playing in
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a band. I was giving guitar lessons. I was designing websites.
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I was doing all sorts of stuff to make ends meet.
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And the thing that people don't realize, they think that the podcast
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is the hard part, The recording and the technology and
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learning the software to answer his one question, if you're on a budget,
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Audacity will work. It's free. But once you
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get the podcast out, you think, okay. Now I'm done. The
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hard part's over. No. The hard part is the marketing and getting
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people to actually listen. When I wrote my book, I thought the hard
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part was, you know, I got a publisher that was great. They said we
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need however many thousands of words. And I started typing
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away and typing away and typing away. And finally, the
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book was done. And I was like, whew. Well, then it went through 5 edits.
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Yeah. 5. And when it was finally done and out, I was
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like, okay. There it is on Amazon. Look at me. I'm a published author. But
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that was really where the work begins.
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So, again, I'm sorry to hear that you're going
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through crushing debt. I've been there, my friend, and I've
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dug myself out. And, I just I
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feel for you. And and that's why I'm saying this. It's not
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don't start a podcast. It's don't start a podcast now. There
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are things that you can do that will earn money now,
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like, you know, whatever, delivering pizzas, you know, whatever you
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wanna do. There are other ways to do that. I know here in my town
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of Akron, Ohio, everybody is hiring in fast food,
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and fast food is, you know, not the dream job. But like I said,
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I worked in a waiter. I was a carhop. I was running out to cars
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and stuff, and it helped pay the bills. And when you look back
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later, you go, ah, I remember the time. And I learned a lot of good
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lessons as a waiter. You can always learn from anything. So
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if you're trying to make money quickly with a podcast, it's
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not that you shouldn't start a podcast. It's
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that maybe you shouldn't start one now. You know, get your finances in
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order. Because the other thing I wanna throw in here before we wrap it up,
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when you have the pressure of not only starting the podcast,
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but, oh my gosh, nobody's buying anything. It's
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just soul crushing. It's just soul crushing. And
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so I would get your finances in order,
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then come back to the podcast. And the podcast can be great
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for therapy, for getting away from all your
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troubles and things like that. I just wouldn't expect any money from
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it in the early stages. But if you've if you're really
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short on time, spend that time with your family, your loved
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ones, take care of your health. You know, take care is
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of your mental health as well. That's really important. And
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I just would advise if you're really, really strapped for time and
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strapped for cash, now is not the time to start a
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podcast. Now if you need help with your podcast,
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I would love to help, and maybe we can find a way to speed
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things up and get you up and going. But as you
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just heard, I actually care for you more as a
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person than as a customer. Because in the end,
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it's like they say on an airplane. Right? You put your oxygen
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mask on first, and then you take care of your kids. And if we don't
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take care of you, well, then there's no podcast. So
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keep that in mind. I do have a book on podcast
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monetization. You can find that at profit from your podcast.com.
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